XGATE, was: Re: [Icc-mot] ImageCraft Blog

[Richard Man]

Thank you for all of you folks' suggestions. The main issue with the 
XGate asm was that we did not have the right resource to support it 
so the implementation was flawed. I will revisit the issues and see 
how best we can proceed forward.


At 06:44 PM 7/30/2008, Rob Milne wrote:
>Hi Richard,
>
>I'll second that sentiment.  Migrating to xgate is the logical 
>progression for my projects.
>
>-rob
>
>Jim Fiocca wrote:
>>    Richard,
>>I spoke with my local Freescale rep about your comment
>>   " Now the latest S12X may not support XGate either".
>>His reply was
>>"Xgate is definitely sticking around. The S12X is the most popular 
>>automotive part we have."
>>And regarding your comment
>>  "Freescale ... is effectively killing its third party vendors by 
>> giving away free compilers."
>>The 32K limit for free CodeWarrior use makes it not very well 
>>suited for S12(X) users - one should probably use an S08 part if 
>>using that little memory.
>>Please reconsider adding an XGate assembler to ICC12.
>>Thanks,
>>  Jim
>>
>>Richard Man wrote:
>>>At 07:24 AM 7/18/2008, Jim Fiocca wrote:
>>>>Not sure if you were looking for feedback on what you wrote on 
>>>>the blog, but I guess I'll give it anyway.
>>>>
>>>>Speaking from a Freescale processor point of view, we all have 
>>>>the option to go to CodeWarrior if we want a big, bloated, 
>>>>full-featured IDE with integrated debugger.  We (I) choose 
>>>>Imagecraft because it is cheaper and less complicated.  I 
>>>>disagree with the whole premise of upgrading the IDE.  I'd be 
>>>>happy if the product didn't have an IDE at all (I only use it 
>>>>from the command line, with a Makefile).
>>>
>>>Hi JIm, I am always looking for input. Your points are well taken, 
>>>and our core competence and core focus will always be the compiler 
>>>support. There is no worry in that regard.
>>>
>>>Hence the decision not to rewrite the IDE ourselves, that'd really 
>>>take resources away from our core competence.
>>>
>>>>I think you should direct your energy into the compiler itself, 
>>>>and adding support for such things as XGATE, for example.
>>>
>>>We attempted to add XGate asm support more than a year ago. It's a 
>>>difficult to understand piece of work, what with the convoluted 
>>>HC12 expanded addressing and the S12X addition etc. In the end, 
>>>very few people care. Now the latest S12X may not support XGate either.
>>>
>>>Business wise, the sad reality with Freescale is that Freescale's 
>>>main focus is on its automotive customers, and on the other hand, 
>>>it is effectively killing its third party vendors by giving away 
>>>free compilers.

// richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
please use richard at imagecraft.com)