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[Rob Milne]

Hi Richard,

I'll second that sentiment.  Migrating to xgate is the logical 
progression for my projects.

-rob

Jim Fiocca wrote:
>    Richard,
> 
> I spoke with my local Freescale rep about your comment
>   " Now the latest S12X may not support XGate either".
> His reply was
> "Xgate is definitely sticking around. The S12X is the most popular 
> automotive part we have."
> 
> And regarding your comment
>  "Freescale ... is effectively killing its third party vendors by giving 
> away free compilers."
> The 32K limit for free CodeWarrior use makes it not very well suited for 
> S12(X) users - one should probably use an S08 part if using that little 
> memory.
> 
> Please reconsider adding an XGate assembler to ICC12.
> 
> Thanks,
>  Jim
> 
> 
> Richard Man wrote:
>> At 07:24 AM 7/18/2008, Jim Fiocca wrote:
>>> Not sure if you were looking for feedback on what you wrote on the 
>>> blog, but I guess I'll give it anyway.
>>>
>>> Speaking from a Freescale processor point of view, we all have the 
>>> option to go to CodeWarrior if we want a big, bloated, full-featured 
>>> IDE with integrated debugger.  We (I) choose Imagecraft because it is 
>>> cheaper and less complicated.  I disagree with the whole premise of 
>>> upgrading the IDE.  I'd be happy if the product didn't have an IDE at 
>>> all (I only use it from the command line, with a Makefile).
>>
>> Hi JIm, I am always looking for input. Your points are well taken, and 
>> our core competence and core focus will always be the compiler 
>> support. There is no worry in that regard.
>>
>> Hence the decision not to rewrite the IDE ourselves, that'd really 
>> take resources away from our core competence.
>>
>>> I think you should direct your energy into the compiler itself, and 
>>> adding support for such things as XGATE, for example.
>>
>> We attempted to add XGate asm support more than a year ago. It's a 
>> difficult to understand piece of work, what with the convoluted HC12 
>> expanded addressing and the S12X addition etc. In the end, very few 
>> people care. Now the latest S12X may not support XGate either.
>>
>> Business wise, the sad reality with Freescale is that Freescale's main 
>> focus is on its automotive customers, and on the other hand, it is 
>> effectively killing its third party vendors by giving away free 
>> compilers.
>>
>> // richard (This email is for mailing lists. To reach me directly, 
>> please use richard at imagecraft.com)
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